tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post8605443262248429032..comments2024-03-04T01:47:18.750-05:00Comments on Lemurian Congress: CKMSAdam Thorntonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05634565262440008573noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post-80018125934698218312008-06-05T08:38:00.000-04:002008-06-05T08:38:00.000-04:00I agree, Irish guy. :)Though since I wrote the pos...I agree, Irish guy. :)<BR/><BR/>Though since I wrote the post, I've come to suspect more and more that the REAL impetus for the referendum was from a few people who simply hated Heather.<BR/><BR/>That sounds incredibly petty. As far as I can tell it was. Sometimes you need to cripple resource in order to enact personal revenge, I guess.Adam Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05634565262440008573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post-56101397548893375162008-06-04T22:14:00.000-04:002008-06-04T22:14:00.000-04:00hi i am an irish guy who worked in the station for...hi i am an irish guy who worked in the station for 2 months even though i didn't like some of the programming i thought it was a great place to work in. i had plenty of great times in the station and will never forget it. i am deeply sorry that the station might be closing as i was hoping to return there ah well you will have small minded people looking after their own interests and not caring for the enjoyment of others :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post-27687398867613154322008-05-10T16:08:00.000-04:002008-05-10T16:08:00.000-04:00CKMS was "rotten to the core" and a "corrupt organ...CKMS was "rotten to the core" and a "corrupt organization?"<BR/><BR/>Show me evidence of that and I will evaluate it. I find it strange that those who cried "corruption" did so on the basis of anecdotes that they never took constructive action on. Whisper campaigns sure, and anonymous exposes with no substantial references, and occasional outbreaks at meetings about irrelevant personal grudges...<BR/><BR/>...but if CKMS was supposedly so "corrupt" and "rotten," why didn't anybody take this to authorities at the University? If the case was so good -- and simply wasn't based on "I don't like the way Heather treated me -- why didn't anybody ever DO anything about it?<BR/><BR/>The defunding was not acting on any evidence of corruption, it was -- as far as I could see -- a collection of students who didn't want to pay the fee, with input from one or more disgruntled ex-members...ex-members who never exposed their grievances to scrutiny in any useful way.<BR/><BR/>Care to explain how Heather obstructed a vote during the AGM you mentioned? The language regarding proxy voting was challenged at the meeting and, rather than go through a process where the lawyer could vet the language and explain it to everybody's satisfaction, a critical vote was demanded immediately based on the suddenly-exposed ambiguous language. In addition, there were questions about the legality of a document that a board member used.<BR/><BR/>Heather did not in ANY WAY obstruct the vote. When these issues were discussed, a motion was made to suspend the meeting until the language could be checked out, and the vote was taken under both the old and new proxy-voting interpretation...AND THE VOTE PASSED UNDER BOTH SYSTEMS.<BR/><BR/>Your suggestion that Heather somehow "obstructed" the vote is sheer fantasy.Adam Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05634565262440008573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post-41648281552247993512008-05-10T13:56:00.000-04:002008-05-10T13:56:00.000-04:00"If CKMS' funding is cut off, I'll understand the ..."If CKMS' funding is cut off, I'll understand the reasoning behind it. But it doesn't bode well. It means that people are only looking after their own interests."<BR/><BR/>Supporters of defunding were looking after the common good. Some of them were no doubt either open to or actually supportive of the general idea of a campus radio station. But CKMS was rotten to the core, and students deserved better than to have such a corrupt organization affiliated with them.<BR/><BR/>To those who claim that station detractors should have been more "constructive" about how they wanted change to happen, I point out that the response in the 2006 AGM left no room for doubt over how criticism would be handled. Whatever it was that the critics were asking for, the bottom line is that <A HREF="http://jeffaho.com/archives/synaesthetik/" REL="nofollow">a perfectly legal vote was obstructed illegally</A> (and even CKMS's own lawyer is on the record in meeting minutes following that AGM that the vote that Heather Majaury obstructed was completely legal -- Heather actually violated CKMS's own bylaws to stop it).<BR/><BR/>Other examples of corruption at CKMS include <A HREF="http://jeffaho.com/archives/ckms-referendum/" REL="nofollow">conducting meetings in a poisoned environment</A>, <A HREF="http://community.livejournal.com/uwaterloo/515664.html?thread=4653136#t4653136" REL="nofollow">obstructing student access to budget and governance information that was their right as shareholders (which CKMS's own attorney admitted)</A>, and <A HREF="http://community.livejournal.com/uwaterloo/512895.html#cutid1" REL="nofollow">breaking referendum rules repeatedly</A>.<BR/><BR/>The opportunity to reform CKMS was taken off the table by CKMS itself. And not only was this a failure of the CKMS establishment -- it was a failure by well-wishers who thought the appropriate response to the circumstances was to goad the CKMS establishment on in its all-or-nothing attitude rather than pressuring it to reform. These people may have meant well, but in the end they contributed to the demise of CKMS.<BR/><BR/>I leave you with <A HREF="http://atuw.ca/opinion-ckms-endgame-analysis" REL="nofollow">comment</A> that may be of particular interest:<BR/><BR/><I>You may be right here, in regard to most voters, but I would like to point out that the corporate behaviours of CKMS are what turned me against it. As a proponent of diverse and open media outlets, and as a former DJ and huge supporter of, and believer in the utility of, radio broadcasting, I *should* have been in CKMS’ corner. However, after hearing repeated tales of the professional habits of its management and the lack of student involvement, I definitely became a supporter of removing the fee. I think a campus radio station is a great idea for the University of Waterloo, I just don’t think it should be CKMS; at least not the CKMS we have now.</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post-56670032893804995492008-01-25T09:07:00.000-05:002008-01-25T09:07:00.000-05:00Isn't that sad? The people who actually have exper...Isn't that sad? The people who actually have experience end up being the people who can't stomach a second year.<BR/><BR/>I think the rules have changed so that you now HAVE to serve two years...a press-gang!Adam Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05634565262440008573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post-24602711659297761742008-01-23T08:44:00.000-05:002008-01-23T08:44:00.000-05:00YES. Unequivocally!YES. Unequivocally!Kimberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08121997385004904981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post-31296874569860394082008-01-22T11:24:00.000-05:002008-01-22T11:24:00.000-05:00Did your experience as a board member teach you --...Did your experience as a board member teach you -- as it taught me -- that you never wanted to serve on a board again?Adam Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05634565262440008573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post-3280212557655053812008-01-22T10:36:00.000-05:002008-01-22T10:36:00.000-05:00Whoa. End of an era, methinks. I fondly remember m...Whoa. End of an era, methinks. I fondly remember my own volunteering days, and all the political bullshit that went along with them. Still, it would be a shame if the community lost CKMS.Kimberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08121997385004904981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post-9233323988368021792008-01-22T09:22:00.000-05:002008-01-22T09:22:00.000-05:00The Imprint article just says "in February." If yo...The Imprint article just says "in February." If you go to imprint.uwaterloo.ca you can see the article, it's on the front page. And you could even leave a comment if you like.<BR/><BR/>Since community members can't be involved in the vote, I haven't paid attention to any date announcement.Adam Thorntonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05634565262440008573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32999748.post-1924295756532278912008-01-22T00:21:00.000-05:002008-01-22T00:21:00.000-05:00Hear, hear. When is the vote?Hear, hear. When is the vote?Eli McIlveenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01788862908104582523noreply@blogger.com